July 5, 2007
1,2,3,4,5 iTUNE stars
Posted by Hal Bogerd at July 5, 2007 7:52 PMLarry recently asked who rates their songs in iTUNES. I don't. The question did make me wonder what the ratings mean to you tune raters. I assume unrated means "haven't had time to listen to it yet" and 3,4 and 5 stars is pretty obvious. What about 1 and 2 stars? Is a 2 star rating saved for the worst tracks from a favorite artist and they should really be deleted but being obsessive music collectors we rarely if ever delete anything? What about 1 star? Brittany Spears and Vogon poetry?
First, let me say that I obsessively hoard my music. I keep stuff I have no intention of ever listening to again. I know it isn't logical, I just do. :)
I've got 250 gig of MP3s, and 60 gig of iPod space, so ratings very much influence what goes on the iPod.
Anyways, here's my scale:
1 = never want to hear again
2 = don't hate, nothing special, not iPod-worthy
3 = don't hate, nothing special, iPod-worthy
4 = like it, good or great
5 = a favorite!
And then, for syncing to the ipod, I have:
- "4+ stars": sync'd
- artist specific: a large number of artist-specific playlists, made up of:
(Artist Name) + (unrated or 3+ stars)
I pick & choose from these which to sync
- audiobooks: only sync those marked "active" in the "Grouping" field
-a few other "mood" playlists of various types
- 3+ stars = random playlist that fills up whatever space is left after that (currently 15GB and shrinking)
I call it my distillation process, squeeeeezing an archive into 60 gig. :)
Posted by: Ranger Rick at July 5, 2007 11:57 PMI borrowed Ranger Rick's process to fill out my own iPod, so my system is pretty similar. (Ben, as he's known IRL, was my roommate for a couple of years.) However, I do assign a little different weight to the stars.
5 - "My life would be different if this song hadn't been in it." "OHMIGOD, I LOVE this song!"
4 - "Damn that song rocks. Kick ass!"
3 - Good background music, doesn't really grab my attention either way. Like Ranger Rick above, whether it goes on my iPod or not usually follows by artist.
2 - Meh. On the "take it or leave it" scale, I can definitely leave it. Boring, a tad annoying, or just from an artist that I have no loyalty to. Like 3-star songs, 2-star songs usually follows the artist or album.
1 - I never want to hear this song again.
I consider both 4 & 5 star songs as "favorites" that *must* go on the iPod. If I give you a mixed CD or a playlist, all of those songs are guaranteed to be 4 or 5 stars.
I consider both 1 & 2 star songs as "un-iPod-worthy." I uncheck those songs in iTunes so they never turn up in random plays or are put on the iPod.
Only 3-star songs may or may not be on the iPod. I either have a random sampling of them (a smart playlist with a size constraint) or I just drag the 3-star songs from a bunch of favorite albums into a playlist. I go back and forth.
Posted by: larry at July 6, 2007 6:57 AMI think Netflix, believe it or not, has the most succinct phrasing of these levels:
5 - "Loved it"
4 - "Really liked it"
3 - "Liked it"
2 - "Didn't like it"
1 - "Hated it"
I think those line up with my system pretty well, but I guess in this case the 3 or 4 is a little tight. So I use this rule of thumb (for movies!):
5 - "my life would be different if I hadn't seen this movie" (e.g. "The Commitments" encouraged my brother and I to start a band, we loved it so much.)
4 - "I'd watch this movie again." (e.g. "Spider-Man" was a lot of fun!)
3 - "Pretty good." (e.g. "Four Brothers" was a movie I didn't expect to like, but it was pretty darn good. I wouldn't watch it again, though.)
Make sense? For music it goes about the same, but instead of "watch again," it's more of a "want it on my iPod" or "want it to turn up often in a random shuffle."
Posted by: larry at July 6, 2007 7:04 AMHal, one last thing -- I think Vogon poetry has to be a 1. It's at the bottom, very, very, very bottom, of what constitutes a 1, but there's nothing LOWER than a 1 star rating, so it has to be a 1. As does Britney.
(Unless it's Nickel Creek covering "Toxic", in which case, following the artist, it's a 3.)
Posted by: larry at July 6, 2007 7:09 AMWhy would you bother rating something a "1 - Don't want to hear again" when you can just delete it? If you're never going to listen to it again, why keep it?
Posted by: at July 9, 2007 10:37 PMNevermind. FOr some reason I didn't see Ben's first paragraph. Hoarder. Got it. ;-)
Posted by: Matt at July 9, 2007 10:42 PMI too am a "horder." I have TONS of CDs, some of which I've opened and never listened to, some I have listened to once, hated and filed away. I've yet to rate any of them though. For some strange reason, I like to rely on my memory for ratings. Basically, if it's remotely good and I think I will want to listen to it/someone will want to hear it at a get together of something, it makes it onto my iPod. If it royally sucks, I won't even load it into iTunes and will just let the CD sit in my CD rack.
Larry,
I hear ya about Netflix's rating, except for that I wish there were 1/2 ratings also.
Posted by: Rage at July 18, 2007 2:48 PM